William Campbell (abt.1650-) | WikiTree FREE Family Tree (2025)

Well, it's been we;; ovr a year now, and testing has continued. It is now confirmed the it is not genetically possible for the Cherry Valley family to be descended from Auchinbreck. The CCSNA Campbell DNA Project at FTDNA, of which I am a DNA TEam member, now had two Auchinbreck BigY700 kits and the SNP haplogroup is now known and lines up with our other Lochow kits as it should. Cherry Valley, and therefore Lt. Col. William cannot be descendeants. This SNP mutation can only be had by direct father to son transmission. Cherry Valley descendants as predicted R-M222 Irish do not carry the mutation. It's that simple. Actually they aren't predicted to carry the Lochow mutation either. And the common ancestor between the two lines (Lochow and Cherry Valley) is to quote FTDBA, "The man who is the most recent common ancestor of this line is estimated to have been born around 2450 BCE." This genealogy connecting to Auchinbreck is not possible. Thanks.

Sorry for the misundrstanding. The MRCA (Most Recent Common Ancestor) could often be within a few centuries but when we limit to only the direct male ancestor a different result might be expected.

I have no idea what that means honestly. "A different result may be expected.."? If we are talking Y-DNA and SNPs that "result" would be the actual direct line male ancestor... Again the way the Y-DNA testing has come back there is a disconnect between what we know the Auchinbreck line to be, and what the Cherry Valley descndants have submitted. They do *not* line up, which confirmed what Dr. Ruby had suggested many years back, namely Lt. Col. William may have married into the Wester Kames family "at best". Until we get many more BigY tests submitted Auchinbreck (A5919 Scotiish) and Lt. Col. William and Cherry Valley (M222 Irish) are never going to line up no matter what. They are in completely different branches of the Haplotree whose common ancestor dates back to about 2100BCE lst time I checked. As I stated on FasmilySearch...if yanyone disagrees with the current test resultss you are free to submit your own FTDNA BigY700 kit and accompanying direct line genealogy. But be fiorewarned... the above senario is "in context" both genetically and genealogically. In other wordds, there are other kits claiming other related lines/cadets related to the Auchinbreck family and they are where they would be expected to show, both genetically and genealogically.

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You need to read up on SNP mutations and how they work. It is anything but nonsense. SNP mutations are only traanmissable father to son. If we were talking about STRs you might have an arguments, but not so when discussing SNP mutations. What I stated is a matter of fact. It's not an opinion.:) The two lines could *not* have been related after about 2100BCE.